[Pythoncard-users]

I finally figured out what was causing TortleSVN not to work: Dumb user
(that's me) that didn't read the manual.

To use subversion, I needed to do these steps:

a) Create a depository
b) Enter ver 0.82 into the depository
c) Check-out 0.82 from the depository - this is the step that wasn't
obvious to me.
d) Now use TortoiseSVN to commit new files into the depository

So, now I have a difference list and I can go through and see all the
changes I made.

The bad news is: my vacation is over. I can only work on this
part-time, till the next vacation. :-)

I made so many changes that the first safe step is take my Pythoncard
setup and compare with the standard 0.82 Pythoncard to list all of the
changes before committing. Then I can document what changes I made.
I tried a number of directory comparison programs and none give me the
result of a local CVS or SVS can do.
But I got a problem: I can't get CVSNT to work while TortuiseCVS
works. Got SVS server to work but can't get TortuiseSVS to work. Any
suggestions, anybody (Windows 7, 64 bit)

If no one objects I'm happy to give John commit privileges to the
repository. That way he can add his changes and produce a 1.0 release.
Regards,
Andy

Phil Edwards

2011-04-26 10:56:42 UTC

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phil jones

2011-04-26 11:34:01 UTC

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John Henry

2011-04-27 02:37:19 UTC

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I can look into the distributed source control system as suggested.

Right now, Subversion is working and works pretty good. Pythoncard is
currently hosted on CVS but I can't get CVSNT to work properly. We
should migrate to better system than CVS anyway.

It's nice to see some long lost names showing up again. May be you guys
can explain to me how to handle events properly. In the
Matplotlibcanvas widget, I am setting up the event list just like other
widgets but the widget won't respond to the events until I reverted to
native wxpython calls.

self._bindEvents(event.WIDGET_EVENTS+event.MOUSE_EVENTS)

# Couldn't get event handlers to work using the _bindEvents
method. Had to resort to native wxPython event calls
wx.EVT_PAINT(self, self._onPaint)
wx.EVT_SIZE(self, self._onSize)
wx.EVT_KEY_DOWN(self, self._onKeyDown)
wx.EVT_KEY_UP(self, self._onKeyUp)
wx.EVT_RIGHT_DOWN(self, self._onRightButtonDown)
wx.EVT_RIGHT_UP(self, self._onRightButtonUp)
wx.EVT_LEFT_DOWN(self, self._onLeftButtonDown)
wx.EVT_LEFT_UP(self, self._onLeftButtonUp)
wx.EVT_MOTION(self, self._onMotion)
wx.EVT_MOUSEWHEEL(self, self._onMouseWheel)

I'm not really involved in PythonCard, but something struck me reading
the recent discussion.
Would it not be a good idea to move to a distributed source control
system (bzr / hg / git) so that John and others could already be
sharing their updates with other PythonCard developers
I understand why there has to be a master repository for "officially"
released versions of PythonCard, and the quality control it implies,
but DSCM can let work go on around the edges before the main repo
owner has time to assess and hand over commit privileges etc.
phil

If no one objects I'm happy to give John commit privileges to the
repository. That way he can add his changes and produce a 1.0 release.
Regards,
Andy

No objection from me - I've not had time to do anything with PythonCard
for a good few years, so some new blood would be welcome!
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Steven D'Aprano

2011-05-01 01:12:15 UTC

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Post by John Henry
I can look into the distributed source control system as suggested.
Right now, Subversion is working and works pretty good. Pythoncard is
currently hosted on CVS but I can't get CVSNT to work properly. We
should migrate to better system than CVS anyway.

For what it is worth, the two popular open source distributed revision
control systems are git and Mercurial (hg). The developers of Python
itself are now using Mercurial, so you might lean more towards
Mercurial. I do.

Some Mercurial resources:

http://hginit.com/index.html
http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/Tutorial
http://hgbook.red-bean.com/

For git, you can do your own googling :-P

Source code hosting is available at (among others) Github, Bitbucket and
Google Code.

Github uses git (well duh *wink*) and is free for Open Source projects.

https://github.com/

Bitbucket uses Mercurial, and is free for small projects:

https://bitbucket.org/

and Google Code also offers free hosting and Mercurial:

http://code.google.com/hosting/

--
Steven

John Henry

2011-05-01 08:08:58 UTC

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Ran into some problem with Mercurial and I really don't have enough time
to try to figure it out. I'm going to stay with SVN for now.

I created a temporary home at http://code.google.com/p/pythoncard-1-0/

Lots of work to do.

Post by Steven D'Aprano

For what it is worth, the two popular open source distributed revision
control systems are git and Mercurial (hg). The developers of Python
itself are now using Mercurial, so you might lean more towards
Mercurial. I do.
http://hginit.com/index.html
http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/Tutorial
http://hgbook.red-bean.com/
For git, you can do your own googling :-P
Source code hosting is available at (among others) Github, Bitbucket and
Google Code.
Github uses git (well duh *wink*) and is free for Open Source projects.
https://github.com/
https://bitbucket.org/
http://code.google.com/hosting/

phil jones

2011-05-01 12:50:19 UTC

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Surely if it's at SourceForge, that will let you create a mercurial
repo, no? Or Bazaar.

http://sourceforge.net/apps/wordpress/sourceforge/2009/03/11/bazaar-and-mercurial-scm-services-launched/

Note that if you're more comfortable with SVN you may find Bazaar more
comfortable as it's designed to feel more like SVN.

phil

Post by John Henry
Ran into some problem with Mercurial and I really don't have enough time
to try to figure it out. I'm going to stay with SVN for now.
I created a temporary home at http://code.google.com/p/pythoncard-1-0/
Lots of work to do.

Post by Steven D'Aprano

For what it is worth, the two popular open source distributed revision
control systems are git and Mercurial (hg). The developers of Python
itself are now using Mercurial, so you might lean more towards
Mercurial. I do.
http://hginit.com/index.html
http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/Tutorial
http://hgbook.red-bean.com/
For git, you can do your own googling :-P
Source code hosting is available at (among others) Github, Bitbucket and
Google Code.
Github uses git (well duh *wink*) and is free for Open Source projects.
https://github.com/
https://bitbucket.org/
http://code.google.com/hosting/

John Henry

2011-05-03 18:31:36 UTC

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Seems to have very little interest in this but if anybody wants to get a
hold of the current version of what I have, you should be able to get it
from the SVN depository using tortoiseSVN.

Can someone at least try to download the whole thing and see if it works?

Post by John Henry
Ran into some problem with Mercurial and I really don't have enough
time to try to figure it out. I'm going to stay with SVN for now.
I created a temporary home at http://code.google.com/p/pythoncard-1-0/
Lots of work to do.

Post by Steven D'Aprano

For what it is worth, the two popular open source distributed revision
control systems are git and Mercurial (hg). The developers of Python
itself are now using Mercurial, so you might lean more towards
Mercurial. I do.
http://hginit.com/index.html
http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/Tutorial
http://hgbook.red-bean.com/
For git, you can do your own googling :-P
Source code hosting is available at (among others) Github, Bitbucket and
Google Code.
Github uses git (well duh *wink*) and is free for Open Source projects.
https://github.com/
https://bitbucket.org/
http://code.google.com/hosting/

Andy Todd

2011-05-05 11:06:19 UTC

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Post by John Henry
Seems to have very little interest in this but if anybody wants to get a
hold of the current version of what I have, you should be able to get it
from the SVN depository using tortoiseSVN.
Can someone at least try to download the whole thing and see if it works?

Post by John Henry
Ran into some problem with Mercurial and I really don't have enough
time to try to figure it out. I'm going to stay with SVN for now.
I created a temporary home at http://code.google.com/p/pythoncard-1-0/
Lots of work to do.

Post by Steven D'Aprano

For what it is worth, the two popular open source distributed revision
control systems are git and Mercurial (hg). The developers of Python
itself are now using Mercurial, so you might lean more towards
Mercurial. I do.
http://hginit.com/index.html
http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/Tutorial
http://hgbook.red-bean.com/
For git, you can do your own googling :-P
Source code hosting is available at (among others) Github, Bitbucket and
Google Code.
Github uses git (well duh *wink*) and is free for Open Source projects.
https://github.com/
https://bitbucket.org/
http://code.google.com/hosting/

The offer still stands to give John Henry access to the SourceForge code.

I did also previously offer a conversion to Subversion on SourceForge
(which is only a couple of steps). That offer stands as well.

Let me know in the +ve or the -ve

Regards,
Andy
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Cristian Mageanu

2011-05-05 21:18:29 UTC

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I would say: yes! Give John Henry the necessary access to maintain
pythoncard. It would be nice to feel the project evolves.

I presume "+ve" is the same as "yes" ?

Regards,
Cristian

The offer still stands to give John Henry access to the SourceForge code.

Post by Andy Todd
I did also previously offer a conversion to Subversion on SourceForge
(which is only a couple of steps). That offer stands as well.
Let me know in the +ve or the -ve
Regards,
Andy
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Teuvo Eloranta

2011-05-06 05:58:04 UTC

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Hi John,

You wrote "Seems to have very little interest in this"....

The lack of responses, activity in this list might not mean there would not
be interest.
At least for me the case is, I'll use the new things (you've implemented) in
PythonCard if I have a need for them (and they're easily
available/findable). It's certainly good to know they are there! But I
personally am too busy right now to start evaluating them just out of
curiosity.

I think there are two ways of making sure the interest exists, as much it
can, in addition to this mailing list:

1) The demo applications pythoncard has are excellent way to sell the tool,
if you have the energy, perhaps you could add your new stuff there too?

2) Documentation, as in component specs in:
http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/framework/components.html or/and as in an
article in 'getting started' chapter in
http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/documentation.html

You're doing a good Job John!

-Teuvo

Post by John Henry
Ran into some problem with Mercurial and I really don't have enough
time to try to figure it out. I'm going to stay with SVN for now.
I created a temporary home at http://code.google.com/p/pythoncard-1-0/
Lots of work to do.

Post by Steven D'Aprano

For what it is worth, the two popular open source distributed revision
control systems are git and Mercurial (hg). The developers of Python
itself are now using Mercurial, so you might lean more towards
Mercurial. I do.
http://hginit.com/index.html
http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/Tutorial
http://hgbook.red-bean.com/
For git, you can do your own googling :-P
Source code hosting is available at (among others) Github, Bitbucket and
Google Code.
Github uses git (well duh *wink*) and is free for Open Source projects.
https://github.com/
https://bitbucket.org/
http://code.google.com/hosting/

Christoph Schneeberger

2011-05-06 11:07:34 UTC

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First of all, thanks to all who invested time into this wonderful
project and for now especially to John for pushing hard to keep it alive.
John, let me add to that, I am lurking on this list, checking the mail
every 2-3 weeks. I've followed your posts lately with great interest,
but to be honest, I was waiting for something released to install and
test. Now I have checked out the 1.0 and it seems it is not what I was
after:

- The checkout command on
http://code.google.com/p/pythoncard-1-0/source/checkout produces a
directory with a starting space, looking like:

" pythoncard-1-0 --username ***@gmail.com" (note the leading space)

First of all I had quite some problems entering/renaming the directory
as my shell cmdline-completion was unable to deal with it.
When I managed to enter that directory I had no pythoncard but some
stuff that looks more like svn-internals.

I really do love pythoncard and I am willing to help with testing
wherever I can. Please John, do not stop your efforts because nobody
seems interested. I guarantee there are a lot of people that are, I bet
once the first downloadable .tgz hits the web you get dozens of
downloads daily!

Again, thanks for the time and work invested in the project. I look
unpatiently forward to your 1.0 release .

Cheers,
Christoph

Post by John Henry
Ran into some problem with Mercurial and I really don't have enough
time to try to figure it out. I'm going to stay with SVN for now.
I created a temporary home at http://code.google.com/p/pythoncard-1-0/
Lots of work to do.

Post by Steven D'Aprano

For what it is worth, the two popular open source distributed revision
control systems are git and Mercurial (hg). The developers of Python
itself are now using Mercurial, so you might lean more towards
Mercurial. I do.
http://hginit.com/index.html
http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/Tutorial
http://hgbook.red-bean.com/
For git, you can do your own googling :-P
Source code hosting is available at (among others) Github, Bitbucket and
Google Code.
Github uses git (well duh *wink*) and is free for Open Source projects.
https://github.com/
https://bitbucket.org/
http://code.google.com/hosting/

John Henry

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